Legislature(2023 - 2024)BELTZ 105 (TSBldg)

05/10/2023 01:30 PM Senate LABOR & COMMERCE

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01:41:12 PM Start
01:42:17 PM Presentation(s): Trauma-informed and Resilience-building Workforces and Workplaces
02:23:52 PM SB73
02:48:44 PM SB60
03:21:41 PM Adjourn
* first hearing in first committee of referral
+ teleconferenced
= bill was previously heard/scheduled
Presentation: Vickie Choitz, Director,
Corporation for a Skilled Workforce, Trauma and
Resilience at Work
-- Invited Testimony --
+= SB 73 REGISTER INTERIOR DESIGNERS TELECONFERENCED
Moved CSSB 73(L&C) Out of Committee
+= SB 60 REPEAL WORKERS' COMP APPEALS COMMISSION TELECONFERENCED
Moved SB 60 Out of Committee
+ Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled TELECONFERENCED
**Streamed live on AKL.tv**
         SB 60-REPEAL WORKERS' COMP APPEALS COMMISSION                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
2:48:44 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  BJORKMAN   reconvened  the   meeting  and   announced  the                                                               
consideration  of  SENATE  BILL  NO. 60  "An  Act  repealing  the                                                               
Workers' Compensation  Appeals Commission; relating  to decisions                                                               
and  orders  of  the Workers'  Compensation  Appeals  Commission;                                                               
relating to superior court jurisdiction  over appeals from Alaska                                                               
Workers'  Compensation Board  decisions;  repealing Rules  201.1,                                                               
401.1,  and  501.1,  Alaska Rules  of  Appellate  Procedure,  and                                                               
amending Rules 202(a),  204(a) - (c), 210(e),  601(b), 602(c) and                                                               
(h),  and  603(a),  Alaska  Rules  of  Appellate  Procedure;  and                                                               
providing for an effective date."                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR BJORKMAN invited Mr. Dunsmore  to put himself on the record                                                               
and  recap  the bill.  He  said  this  bill  was first  heard  on                                                               
February 27.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
2:49:14 PM                                                                                                                    
DAVID DUNSMORE,  Staff, Senator  Bill Wielechowski,  Alaska State                                                               
Legislature, Juneau, Alaska,  said SB 60 would  repeal the Alaska                                                               
Workers'  Compensation Appeals  Commission (WCAC),  which handles                                                               
appeals  directly from  the Alaska  Workers' Compensation  Board.                                                               
SB 60 would restore  jurisdiction of those appeals  to the Alaska                                                               
Court System. The repeal would  save the state $472,900 per year.                                                               
He said the Alaska Court System provided a zero fiscal note.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
2:50:13 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  BJORKMAN asked  whether, taking  into account  the history                                                               
and structure  of the  Workers' Compensation  Appeals Commission,                                                               
there  is another  quasi-judicial, decision-making  board in  the                                                               
state  that  follows  a  similar   process  of  appealing  to  an                                                               
intermediary entity before petitioning the Alaska Supreme Court.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MR. DUNSMORE expressed his belief  that the answer is no, stating                                                               
he  believes  this  is  a  unique  structure  where  the  appeals                                                               
commission takes  on the  role that the  Superior Court  plays in                                                               
other administrative matters.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR BJORKMAN asked whether a  different state agency could take                                                               
on this role.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR. DUNSMORE  replied that the Office  of Administrative Hearings                                                               
(OAH) contracts  with certain  agencies to  handle administrative                                                               
hearings. It has  been discussed in the past  whether moving this                                                               
responsibility to OAH would be  appropriate. He said that Senator                                                               
Wielechowski's  position  is  this   would  not  result  in  cost                                                               
savings. It is  appropriate for the courts to  hear these appeals                                                               
since  they  are  from the  initial  deliberative  administrative                                                               
body.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR BJORKMAN  wondered what  recourse a  person who  disputes a                                                               
workers' compensation  claim decision would have  if the Workers'                                                               
Compensation Appeals Commission were eliminated.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
2:52:53 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. DUNSMORE  replied that SB  60 would restore  the jurisdiction                                                               
for  those  appeals to  the  Alaska  Superior Court.  A  workers'                                                               
compensation appeal  would be  handled like  other administrative                                                               
appeals and decisions.  The Superior Court would  handle the part                                                               
of the Workers' Compensation Appeals Commission.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR BJORKMAN said the  Workers' Compensation Appeals Commission                                                               
was created in 2006. He said  that initially, the number of cases                                                               
rose; however,  the number of cases  heard in the past  ten years                                                               
has decreased  significantly. He  asked what caused  the Workers'                                                               
Compensation  Appeals Commission  workload  to  decrease by  two-                                                               
thirds or more.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MR. DUNSMORE replied that he  cannot provide a specific answer to                                                               
that question.  However, the commission  is an appeals  body that                                                               
primarily  handles  matters of  law,  and  as  more case  law  is                                                               
developed, there is  less ambiguity that parties  might choose to                                                               
challenge. He said  that the decrease in workload  is likely due,                                                               
in part, to this factor.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR BJORKMAN said  that it is his understanding,  as well, that                                                               
there  has   been  significant  work  toward   mediation  in  the                                                               
proceedings before  the Alaska  Workers' Compensation  Board that                                                               
likely avoids appeals to the commission.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
2:54:48 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR DUNBAR commented that since  2006, industry often reports                                                               
about  its tremendous  focus on  safety. He  expressed hope  that                                                               
workers' compensation  claims are  decreasing as a  whole because                                                               
there  are  fewer injured  workers.  Safety  is a  commitment  in                                                               
almost every  industry. Alaska has  seen a  significant reduction                                                               
in workplace  injuries. He expressed curiosity  about who appeals                                                               
to the  commission, for  example, the  employee, the  insurer, or                                                               
other party.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. DUNSMORE  replied that  he has  not seen  a breakdown  of the                                                               
number of appeals from claimants and the number from insurers.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  DUNBAR noted  that he  found only  one statement  in his                                                               
packet either for or against SB  60, and that statement came from                                                               
insurers in favor  of keeping WCAC. He expressed  his belief that                                                               
the committee did  not receive any statements  of opposition from                                                               
workers'  groups. He  said this  seems to  indicate that  perhaps                                                               
insurers  might  take  advantage  of  the  Workers'  Compensation                                                               
Appeals Commission more  frequently, but it is hard  to know with                                                               
only one piece of commentary in the packet.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
2:56:44 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR   BJORKMAN   expressed   his  understanding   that   before                                                               
2005/2006, when the Workers'  Compensation Appeals Commission was                                                               
established, it took  the Superior Court 8 - 18  months to render                                                               
a decision.  Since then,  the timeframe to  issue a  decision has                                                               
averaged  around one  year. In  2015, a  Department of  Labor and                                                               
Workforce Development  (DOLWD) report stated that  the timeliness                                                               
of those  decisions changed very  little. He  sought confirmation                                                               
as to the accuracy of this information.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MR.  DUNSMORE  expressed  his  belief  that  the  information  is                                                               
correct. He  noted that  a significant  decrease in  workload has                                                               
led  to  enhanced  efficiency within  the  commission  in  recent                                                               
years. He expressed his belief  that enacting SB 60 would improve                                                               
the average  speed of  reaching a final  resolution in  cases. He                                                               
explained that  during the deliberation on  legislation to create                                                               
the Workers'  Compensation Appeals Commission,  committee minutes                                                               
indicated  that  approximately 25  percent  of  appeals from  the                                                               
Superior  Court were  appealed to  the Supreme  Court. In  recent                                                               
years, about 50 percent of  the commission's cases were appealed.                                                               
The  sponsor   believes  that   restoring  jurisdiction   to  the                                                               
[superior] court would  expedite the average time  to reach final                                                               
resolution for  cases. This is  because an appeal to  the Supreme                                                               
Court can  add months  or years  to the  time it  takes to  get a                                                               
final resolution.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  BJORKMAN sought  clarification that  currently appeals  go                                                               
straight  from the  Workers' Compensation  Appeals Commission  to                                                               
the Supreme  Court and that  repealing the  Worker's Compensation                                                               
Appeals  Commission would  restore jurisdiction  to the  Superior                                                               
Court.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MR. DUNSMORE replied that is correct.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
2:59:10 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR BJORKMAN opened invited and public testimony on SB 60.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
3:00:10 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  BJORKMAN  expressed  his  intention  to  ask  Mr.  Collins                                                               
questions to provide more depth to the deliberations.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
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3:00:38 PM                                                                                                                    
At ease.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
3:01:52 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR BJORKMAN reconvened  the meeting and asked  Mr. Collins how                                                               
the process for a workers'  compensation claimant works currently                                                               
and how a claimant would be affected if SB 60 were enacted.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
3:02:39 PM                                                                                                                    
CHARLES  COLLINS, Director,  Division  of Workers'  Compensation,                                                               
Department of  Labor and  Workforce Development  (DOLWD), Juneau,                                                               
Alaska, explained  the current  workers' compensation  process in                                                               
Alaska. Under  the existing system,  an injured employee  has the                                                               
right to  file a claim  and receive the appropriate  benefits. He                                                               
said it is supposed to  be a non-confrontational law; however, on                                                               
occasion, employers  may contest claims if  they suspected errors                                                               
in  a  claim  or  had   concerns  about  certain  benefits,  like                                                               
indemnity or  medical. In such  cases, the matter can  be brought                                                               
before  the  Alaska  Workers'   Compensation  Board.  This  board                                                               
consists  of  a  hearing  officer employed  by  the  Division  of                                                               
Workers'  Compensation and  two panel  members, one  representing                                                               
labor and one representing industry.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MR. COLLINS said the board  conducts an adjudication process, and                                                               
its decision is  published. If any party, be it  the employer, an                                                               
insurance  company  acting on  behalf  of  the employer,  or  the                                                               
employee, believes the  case was not properly  decided, they have                                                               
the right  to appeal.  Currently, these  appeals are  directed to                                                               
the   Workers'  Compensation   Appeals   Commission  that   deals                                                               
exclusively  with  workers'  compensation  matters.  The  appeals                                                               
commission   consists  of   an   administrative   law  judge   or                                                               
commissioner  with  workers'   compensation  law  expertise,  two                                                               
industry members,  and two  labor members, all  of whom  are past                                                               
Alaska Workers' Compensation Board members.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
3:04:42 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. COLLINS said appeals are  submitted in writing to the appeals                                                               
commission  or, occasionally,  via oral  testimony. The  Workers'                                                               
Compensation  Appeals  Commission has  the  option  to remand  it                                                               
back, remand  it back  in part, or  uphold the  board's decision.                                                               
Due process  allows a party  the right  to further appeal  to the                                                               
Supreme Court. He  said all of these  things happen occasionally.                                                               
He  offered  a  few  statistics about  appeals  to  the  Workers'                                                               
Compensation  Appeals Commission.  In  the past  three years,  54                                                               
percent  of  those  appeals involved  legal  assistance,  and  46                                                               
percent were pro se, unrepresented employees.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
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3:05:46 PM                                                                                                                    
At ease.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
3:06:45 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  BJORKMAN reconvened  the meeting.  He asked  whether there                                                               
are  other  similar  bodies   specifically  assembled  to  review                                                               
decisions made by another quasi-judicial body.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MR. COLLINS  replied that  the closest  comparable body  would be                                                               
the Office  of Administrative Hearings  (OAH). OAH  hears appeals                                                               
from   many   departments,  including   occasional   unemployment                                                               
insurance tax appeals from DOLWD.  OAH was established to provide                                                               
a  centralized  venue  for administrative  law  matters  and  due                                                               
process.   Alaska  refrained   from   using   OAH  for   workers'                                                               
compensation cases because of the  specialized nature of workers'                                                               
compensation law.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR BJORKMAN  asked whether committee members  had questions or                                                               
if Mr. Collins wanted to add to his testimony.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MR. COLLINS said he would  like to submit additional information.                                                               
He said  workers' compensation law is  in Title 23 of  the Alaska                                                               
Statutes and 8 AAC 45 of  the Alaska Administrative Code. He held                                                               
up  a book  governing workers'  compensation law  and underscored                                                               
that this area of law  is considerably more specialized than many                                                               
types of  law in the  state. He  noted that having  a specialized                                                               
knowledge of  workers' compensation  is not required  to practice                                                               
it but reiterated  that it is a specialized subset  of the law in                                                               
its own right.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
3:10:00 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR BJORKMAN asked if other  states have a structure similar to                                                               
the Workers' Compensation Appeals Commission in Alaska.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MR.   COLLINS   replied    every   state   administers   workers'                                                               
compensation law  differently. Workers'  compensation is  a state                                                               
prerogative, and its administration  differs from state to state.                                                               
Several states  have commissions where appeals  stay within their                                                               
workers'  compensation  domain  and  eventually make  it  to  the                                                               
Supreme Court. For instance, Maryland  does not have panels; they                                                               
have judges overseeing the first  hearings, which can be appealed                                                               
to a  commission judge with  whom they  work closely and  is more                                                               
interchangeable  than in  Alaska. In  contrast, Alaska  separates                                                               
the   appeals   commission   from   the   workers'   compensation                                                               
adjudication process.  While the  appeals commission  falls under                                                               
the  Director of  the Division  of Workers'  Compensation, it  is                                                               
separate from  the adjudication side.  Information is  not shared                                                               
until  formal paperwork  is sent  indicating an  appeal has  been                                                               
initiated.  The two  entities  operate  from separate  locations,                                                               
maintaining a distinct separation.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  BJORKMAN sought  confirmation  that in  other states,  the                                                               
workers' compensation  board has  an internal appeals  process to                                                               
review   their   decisions,   address   potential   issues,   and                                                               
subsequently make another decision.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MR.  COLLINS  replied  that  is correct.  Some  states  are  more                                                               
aligned internally  and do  not set their  process off.  He noted                                                               
that the specific procedures vary  from state to state, but there                                                               
is always  an appeals component.  There are very few  states that                                                               
go directly to the courts. For  example, Nebraska does not have a                                                               
workers'  compensation  board.  He   expressed  his  belief  that                                                               
everything goes  through the  courts there.  The breadth  of what                                                               
happens  across  America  and   worldwide  varies,  and  Alaska's                                                               
approach falls within the more common area.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
3:13:06 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR BJORKMAN  asked Ms.  Mead what  the additional  caseload on                                                               
the  court system  would be  and the  effect on  its capacity  to                                                               
carry out its functions if WCAC were eliminated.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
3:13:38 PM                                                                                                                    
NANCY  MEADE,   General  Counsel,  Alaska  Court   System  (ACS),                                                               
Anchorage, Alaska,  said she  submitted a  zero fiscal  note. She                                                               
explained  that  SB 60  will  represent  more  work for  the  ACS                                                               
judges; however,  that will  not justify  another judge  or staff                                                               
person. She  anticipates that the  appeals will be  spread around                                                               
the state,  but most will  be filed  in Anchorage or  Juneau. She                                                               
reiterated that  these cases  are very  difficult, but  the court                                                               
can handle  them. ACS  receives appeals  from other  agencies and                                                               
the  Office   of  Administrative  Hearings,  which   are  handled                                                               
differently  in the  Superior Court  from  other cases.  Superior                                                               
Court cases are usually trials,  but agency appeals are submitted                                                               
mostly on  documents. There  is often no  oral argument,  so they                                                               
are paper-intensive.  They are a little  bit of a side  issue for                                                               
judges compared  to the day-to-day  work of  hearings, monitoring                                                               
the progress of  ongoing trials, and pretrial  preparation. It is                                                               
hard to anticipate their numbers  and effect on the court system.                                                               
She  said in  past years  there  were 30  to 35  cases per  year.                                                               
However,  during the  pandemic, those  numbers plummeted  because                                                               
fewer  people were  working and  fewer things  were happening  in                                                               
state  government  and business.  However,  if  the case  numbers                                                               
returned  to   30  to  35,   that  would  mean  an   increase  in                                                               
administrative appeals that would need  to be handled by Superior                                                               
Court  judges. She  said the  judges in  Anchorage will  get more                                                               
cases than others, possibly three  per Anchorage civil judge. She                                                               
reiterated  that these  are time-consuming,  difficult cases.  In                                                               
the past, before  WCAC, cases were resolved in  eight to eighteen                                                               
months. She  expressed her concern  about this  statistic, noting                                                               
judges  are not  generally familiar  with these  cases, and  each                                                               
case presents a learning opportunity for  the judge to whom it is                                                               
assigned. She testified  that ACS can accept these  cases if that                                                               
is the policy of the legislature.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
3:16:19 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  DUNBAR said  the  sponsor  provided evidence  indicating                                                               
that  before the  appeals commission  was  established, about  25                                                               
percent  of the  Superior Court  decisions were  appealed to  the                                                               
Supreme Court,  whereas 50  percent of  WCAC decisions  have been                                                               
appealed  to  the Supreme  Court  since  2011. He  expressed  his                                                               
understanding that SB 60 would  increase the workload on Superior                                                               
Court  judges.  He asked  whether  the  bill might  decrease  the                                                               
workload on the  Supreme Court because the  Superior Court judges                                                               
might   resolve  the   cases  in   a  way   that  reduces   their                                                               
susceptibility to appeal.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MS. MEADE  replied that she has  not been able to  verify or find                                                               
data on  that difference  and how  many cases  go to  the Supreme                                                               
Court, so  she said that  she could  not comment on  that matter.                                                               
She  conveyed that  one of  the advantages  of having  a Workers'                                                               
Compensation  Appeals Commission  is  that the  decision of  that                                                               
commission binds  the Alaska  Workers' Compensation  Board, which                                                               
creates  precedent.  Each  decision creates  a  precedent,  which                                                               
might explain why fewer cases are  going to WCAC. The body of law                                                               
is well established  now. The same is not true  of Superior Court                                                               
judges.  She said  that if  Judge  Jones in  Anchorage renders  a                                                               
decision on  a workers' compensation  appeal, that  decision will                                                               
not impact  a different  Superior Court  judge. The  court system                                                               
will  not get  settled  law  until the  Supreme  Court renders  a                                                               
decision in a  case. So, this is something that  could be lost by                                                               
eliminating  the Workers'  Compensation  Appeals Commission.  She                                                               
reiterated   that   Superior   Court  decisions   do   not   have                                                               
precedential value, which is one  of the reasons these cases were                                                               
given to an appeals commission in the past.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
3:18:31 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  DUNBAR  said that  with  50  percent of  WCAC  decisions                                                               
appealed to the  Alaska Supreme Court, it  is rendering decisions                                                               
on  the appeals  commission's  rulings, and  those decisions  are                                                               
generating precedent.  He sought confirmation that  those Supreme                                                               
Court decisions  have generated precedent  for the last 17  to 18                                                               
years.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MS. MEADE replied  yes; however, a majority of  those appealed to                                                               
the  Supreme  Court  were ultimately  dismissed  or  denied.  The                                                               
Alaska  Supreme  Court  only  publishes  a  handful  of  workers'                                                               
compensation opinions yearly, which has been fairly consistent.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
3:19:46 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR BJORKMAN closed public testimony on SB 60.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR BJORKMAN  commented that this bill  requires legislators to                                                               
make a  policy call on whether  the $500,000 cost to  operate the                                                               
Worker's Compensation  Appeals Commission  is worth its  value to                                                               
workers   and  employers.   Arguments   for   and  against   have                                                               
accumulated  over its  17-year history.  He expressed  his belief                                                               
that the Senate Judiciary Committee should review the quasi-                                                                    
judicial, judicative  questions and,  for that reason,  he wishes                                                               
to move  SB 60 to  the next  committee of referral.  He expressed                                                               
his intention  to sign  "no recommendation"  to this  bill today,                                                               
continue policy discussions, and weigh the merits of the bill.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  BJORKMAN found  no further  discussion  and solicited  the                                                               
will of the committee.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
3:21:16 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  GRAY-JACKSON  moved to  report  SB  60, work  order  33-                                                               
LS0330\A,  from  committee  with individual  recommendations  and                                                               
attached fiscal note(s).                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR BJORKMAN  found no  objection and SB  60 was  reported from                                                               
the Senate Labor and Commerce Standing Committee.                                                                               

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